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RE: Now she adds insult to injury! Argggh!
Oh! I don't do "valentines Day" either! It feels so contrived, you know? HOWEVER, ever since I was a little girl my father has sent me a box of chocolates for Valentines Day, and well I do expect THAT. I suppose because it is from a father to his "little girl" and it just seems... sweet (and tastes it, too!). My DH has been told that I would prefer random gifts occasionally to validate his feelings for me, than flowers on Valentines Day.
I hope your boyfriend appreciates your emotional honesty and integrity. You seem so emotionally balanced! I admit that I have had issues my whole life playing the role of door mat. I have a mother with a fierce temper, and have had a fear for always that if I speak my mind, I will come off the way she can- hurting feelings.
MBTI is interesting. I think it has helped me the most in understanding my parents. And my sister, whose personality is very different from my own. But mainly it helped me understand my EX. He is an ISTP. I never understood why he didn't "get" me- or me him. Once he typed, it was like "Oh!". His personality lives for sensual, tangible "in the moment" thrills, and my personality lives for obtaining "ideals" and looking toward the future. He lived entirely in the moment- never thinking ahead, and I lived entirely in the future- never appreciating the daily. We were a very poor match!
I have just done, what I think is probably a very basic version of the tesy. My results..INTP!
Your father sending you chocolates as a child is really a very sweet thing to do. I think children can feel left out on such occasions, and that serves to make you feel part of it. That's lovely!
Like you, my BF and I give each other little gifts randomly. It means so much more. It means something has triggered of a thought in your mind that suggests an object will please, really please as it suits the one receiving it depending on 'their' personal ideas/hobbies/likes etc....
Though my boyfriend has said on many an occasion he loves me and respects me for my passion and honesty, I am sure I drive him up at the wall at times!?? I think even if people prefer the truth, it can be a lot to deal with at times. He can be withdrawn when he is unhappy, I let everyone know about it! 
I have had my moments and look back and want to hang my head in the palm of my hand for not having been a little more receptive at times, towards others. I know out of anger I have acted irrationally, but I do always apologise. I would feel bloody awful if I didn't!
I am an emotinally honest person, but find that has worked against me whe in the company of people such as my MIL. She knows then that certain things said or done will rile me up.
Not anymore mind, I am trying to stay as calm as I possibly can. I know she is just itching to find that 'something' to get at me with.
08-16-2008 08:31 AM
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OK, so I have taken another two personality tests 'after' drinking copious amounts of coffee and so having slightly better concentration than earlier on.
I now have different results. Both of the new tets suggest I am an INJF.
What the heck is an INJF you ask?!!?
(INFJs are gentle, caring, complex and highly intuitive individuals. Artistic and creative, they live in a world of hidden meanings and possibilities. Only one percent of the population has an INFJ Personality Type, making it the most rare of all the types.
INFJs place great importance on havings things orderly and systematic in their outer world. They put a lot of energy into identifying the best system for getting things done, and constantly define and re-define the priorities in their lives. On the other hand, INFJs operate within themselves on an intuitive basis which is entirely spontaneous. They know things intuitively, without being able to pinpoint why, and without detailed knowledge of the subject at hand. They are usually right, and they usually know it.
Consequently, INFJs put a tremendous amount of faith into their instincts and intuitions. This is something of a conflict between the inner and outer worlds, and may result in the INFJ not being as organized as other Judging types tend to be. Or we may see some signs of disarray in an otherwise orderly tendency, such as a consistently messy desk.)
This link ( http://sminds.com/mbti/ ) will take you to one of the tests I did.
Is best to do it when you are feeling alert and not when feeling tired or groggy!
08-16-2008 09:12 AM
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I am an INFJ, too. Thats pretty weird! I wonder what your boyfriend is??? Most "N's" prefer the company of other iNtuitives.
08-16-2008 10:13 AM
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By the way, your future mil is probably a "sensate" (S) and they REALLY appreciate and expect occasions to be honored (like Valentines Day). It validates them. My MIL is a Sensate, and since 75% of the population IS, it helps to keep that in mind that things that mean nothing to us, hold a great deal of significance for them. Sensates -especially "guardians"- "manage" the world and are how order is obtained. Without them, values and law would crumble.
08-16-2008 10:16 AM
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I am an INFJ, too. Thats pretty weird! I wonder what your boyfriend is??? Most "N's" prefer the company of other iNtuitives.
Yes, I did another two tests as the first one I did was a very quick ten questions, and not at all inspiring, I wasn't quite 'with it' either. Is interesting that INFJs are meant to be rare! Well there are two here! 
My BF did the same two tests that I had done and they both suggest he is an ISTP.
(ISTPs have a compelling drive to understand the way things work. They're good at logical analysis, and like to use it on practical concerns. They typically have strong powers of reasoning, although they're not interested in theories or concepts unless they can see a practical application. They like to take things apart and see the way they work.
ISTPs have an adventuresome spirit. They are attracted to motorcycles, airplanes, sky diving, surfing, etc. They thrive on action, and are usually fearless. ISTPs are fiercely independent, needing to have the space to make their own decisions about their next step. They do not believe in or follow rules and regulations, as this would prohibit their ability to "do their own thing". Their sense of adventure and desire for constant action makes ISTPs prone to becoming bored rather quickly.
ISTPs are loyal to their causes and beliefs, and are firm believers that people should be treated with equity and fairness. Although they do not respect the rules of the "System", they follow their own rules and guidelines for behavior faithfully. They will not take part in something which violates their personal laws. ISTPs are extremely loyal and faithful to their "brothers".)
I haven't found a site that gives you an idea of the compatability between the types.
I am at home today, so I am having a look see!
08-16-2008 10:26 AM
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By the way, your future mil is probably a "sensate" (S) and they REALLY appreciate and expect occasions to be honored (like Valentines Day). It validates them. My MIL is a Sensate, and since 75% of the population IS, it helps to keep that in mind that things that mean nothing to us, hold a great deal of significance for them. Sensates -especially "guardians"- "manage" the world and are how order is obtained. Without them, values and law would crumble.
I did a test on her behalf, her results......IOMD. Intefering, Old, Miserble, Dragon! 
OK, that was naughty. Would be interesting to know what her results are actually. There is something in what you have explained about Senates.
She is a very closed off person! Maybe afraid to show emotions even?
I need to go and look through the list of personalities, see which fits her.
08-16-2008 10:31 AM
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"I did a test on her behalf, her results......IOMD. Intefering, Old, Miserble, Dragon! "
Oh Sianey.. that is funny .... I am about to do the test... I used to know mine, but I could take it again....
08-16-2008 11:06 AM
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My ex was an ISTP. I absolutely hero worshiped him. He was the most brilliant person I have ever known. But emotionally he was constipated. He had a very unhealthy childhood and that effected him deeply, and gave his personality a negative slant. I would let your BF read the following profiles- ISTJ, ISTP and INTP. He can see which one "feels" right. There is one really funny test out there that types you by star trek characters- that was the only test that worked for my ex!!! When it came out what type he was, he said "Thats odd, I identified with that character"... then we went and read the profiles and it "fit".
You should read INTJ and INFJ. Although I suspect INFJ is right for you.
There are alot of INFJ's on these type communities- that is because we seek to constantly better ourselves and are attracted to "self help" and psychology related forums. Many INFJ's become psychologists. And artists (I remembered you mentioned that). I write, so I guess that's my creative outlet. I would also expect to see INFP's, ENFJ's and INTJ's here. And, ISFP's and ISFJ's because they are peacemakers.
For your mil- read ISFJ, ESFJ and ESTJ. But, she would have to type herself, really. I was able to type my sister, but was completely shocked by my father and mothers types (and then it totally clicked).
BTW, there is no "bad type". My first boyfriend had a very emotionally manipulative mother who I always "clicked" with. I really liked her, but she totally p*ssed me off the way she could twist and manipulate both her children. Her son still lives at home- my ex boyfriend- and he is 35 years old!!! He honestly feels she can not make it on her own, and she has managed to secure her future with his company and he spends every Friday evening having chinese take out and playing cards with her. Her type? INFJ!!! Its scarey how we can apply our intuitive abilities and ability to "Read" people to manipulation when we want to.
08-16-2008 11:07 AM
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The fact that INFJs are described as being creative and artisitic leapt out a mile!
I think the descriptions for my BFs type are pretty spot on in his case. I do think he tolerates an awful lot before he eventually says 'enough! ', but then I really think he means enough for now.
This is why his mother manages to manipulate him so easily, and why, up until recently she has had a sort of hold over him.
I think we all 'manipulate' people and situations to a degree, it's part of survival and a way of protecting our best interests and those close to us, of course some take it too far.
08-16-2008 11:20 AM
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I am the Loud mouth who stands up for my beliefs.. No problem with confrontations and telling people (MIL!) what I think about them ;)...
.."ESTJs can sometimes be very demanding and critical, because they have such strongly held beliefs, and are likely to express themselves without reserve if they feel someone isn't meeting their standards. But at least their expressions can be taken at face-value, because the ESTJ is extremely straight-forward and honest."
What out MIL! LOL
Extroverted (E) 66.67% Introverted (I) 33.33%
Sensing (S) 60% Intuitive (N) 40%
Thinking (T) 59.26% Feeling (F) 40.74%
Judging (J) 72.41% Perceiving (P) 27.59%
ESTJ - "Administrator". Much in touch with the external environment. Very responsible. Pillar of strength.
The ESTJ is outspoken, a person of principles, which are readily expressed. The ESTJ is not afraid to stand up for what she believes is right even in the face of overwhelming odds. ESTJs are able to make the tough calls.
One particular website tells me that my type is well matched with ISTP, or the INTP. .. If you are interested in looking up yours, the link is: http://www.personalitypage.com
08-16-2008 11:42 AM
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